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The starting point, of course, was
Chris Ryan's novel, <i>Strike Back,</i>

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{\an8}which I saw racked up
in Stansted airport, actually,

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{\an8}on the way out to see a friend
and I bought it.

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And I read the jacket
and dived into the book.

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And I thought it was exactly
the sort of thing I was looking to do.

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When I read it,
I straight away thought, you know,

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{\an8}most people do get excited
with actions, helicopters, guns

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{\an8}and yes it is, you know,
that's exciting to play with,

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but it's just a backdrop and in front
of that and in the middle of that

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are these kind of relationships
and these human beings

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that try to exist in
extraordinary circumstances.

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And I think that's what
makes it interesting dramatically.

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<i>Five, four, three, two, one.</i>

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Go! Go! Go!

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{\an8}The series begins with a firefight
set in Basra in 2003.

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{\an8}And I go alongside four Special Forces,

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of which Richard is one of them.

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<i>He is a killing machine.</i>
<i>He's SAS.</i>

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He came through the military
from about the age of 19.

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His father was in the military.

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He has all the siblings
who were also in the military.

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He's got to a point in his career

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where he's probably the best
he's ever going to be.

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Shoot him.

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Go! Shoot him!

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What's the hold-up?

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This catastrophic thing happens
when he's in an operation in Basra.

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And he fails to kill a child
who has a bomb strapped to him,

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which one would perceive
to be a heroic act.

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In terms of military,
because that child then went on to

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effectively kill three members
of his team,

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it was deemed a failure
so he had to retire.

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Basically his career fell apart.

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And that's the beginning
of the story of Porter.

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The interesting thing with John Porter,
Richard's character,

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is that he has to be calm
within the midst of these war zones.

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<i>So he has this...</i>
<i>That's why he's so proficient.</i>

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<i>Because he doesn't get</i>
<i>emotionally involved.</i>

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<i>He's an automaton.</i>

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<i>He's not a cold-blooded killer</i>
<i>but he operates very calmly</i>

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<i>under great duress,</i>
<i>which is why he is so good.</i>

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With John Porter,
we have a really good hero.

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You know. He's played by Richard,
it's quite silent,

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it's quite quiet, quite determined.

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You know, it's six episodes but
each episode is a double episode,

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so you've got three movies.

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And you've got a collection
of characters that you can relate to

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and follow on this
sort of incredible journey.

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{\an8}The logistics for this show
are on an enormous scale.

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{\an8}I mean, it's helicopters
landing on rooftops,

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{\an8}it's huge explosions,
it's large battle sequences.

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We have action on a huge scale,

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but sometimes I think television
and film can be over-conscious

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of trying to show them on the onscreen.

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It's all there, the cameras are rolling,
everything's happening,

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but very often the focus will be
on the character in the foreground,

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not on the explosion behind.

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And what that does is it draws you into
a much more intimate human experience.

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Steve. Steve!

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Porter!

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Where are the other men?
Collinson, where's Mike and Keith?

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- Fuck.
- They're dead.

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Porter! Porter!

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The interaction between
Porter and Collinson

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is being very much affected by
that kind of relationship.

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It's cowboys and Indians
in the playground,

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but without detracting from the
seriousness of what we're trying to do.

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They keep each other as close
as they can, and you know,

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you keep your friends close
and your enemies even closer.

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- John, it wasn't your fault.
- What did he say to me?

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- What did...
- The kid.

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The boy that I hit.

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What exactly did he say to me?

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It's an Arabic saying.

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"I lay my life for your sake."
It's a debt of honour.

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Both these men are locked
in one single event

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that happened in the stairwell
in the first 10 minutes of the film.

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And it will last for
the entire six hours,

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the resolution of what
really happened in the stairwell,

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as Layla says to Porter
at the end of episode four.

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I need to know what happened
during the Bratton extraction in 2003.

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Porter!

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Where's Mike and Keith?

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Where's Mike and Keith?

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Why do you want to know?

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Because I need to trust the people
my life depends on.

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There's history between
you and Collinson.

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Well, Layla works for Section 20

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{\an8}and is sort of the second-in-command
from Collinson.

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{\an8}She's a very kind of ambitious,
very driven woman

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in a, obviously, a kind of predominantly
male-dominated kind of environment.

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She is kind of very sharp

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and someone who's quite tough
and doesn't take any nonsense.

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And she has a very kind of
sceptical opinion of Porter at first,

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because he hasn't sort of
risen through the ranks,

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or come through the system
in the way that

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most people in the position
he ends up in normally would.

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You didn't think it worth mentioning

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that Porter's been off active duty
for nearly eight years,

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had borderline
post-traumatic stress disorder,

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a 10% weakness in one arm,

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and what effectively amounts
to a dishonourable discharge?

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Layla, we have nothing.

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Jodhi May has been absolutely fantastic.

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She brings something so cerebral
to that character.

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And has turned Layla into
a really interesting woman

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who can be both political
and active in the theatre of war,

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and I think that's a real achievement.

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- Alpha Team, this is Section 20...
- Lieutenant, report!

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Motherfucking...

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<i>The entire building's just gone up, sir.</i>

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<i>I can't see them.</i>
<i>I can't see Alpha Team.</i>

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The control room is very exciting
because, you know,

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{\an8}you have this clock
running in the background

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{\an8}of sort of countdown of
how much time they have

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{\an8}before something's going to go wrong.

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And just to have that there
and the setup, it's all live,

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all this sort of equipment
that's around us is all interactable.

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And then we were shooting something
with a live feed with Jodhi shooting

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from a helicopter which
they'd set up outside.

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So the sense of immediacy
makes it very exciting.

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And the lovely thing about this story,
particularly with Danni as well,

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because I've had to do
a lot of work with her,

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is it feels that there's so far
to go with her.

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And they're all powerful, strong,
witty and intelligent roles.

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Her secret agenda, if there is one,

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is this relationship she has
with John Porter,

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which is still a bit ambiguous,
you know.

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He's introduced to her
in an interesting way,

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in that she's posing as a nurse
whilst he's being...

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having his medical to be
reactivated into the Secret Service.

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How are you feeling
this evening, Sergeant?

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Absolutely bloody knackered, Sergeant.

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Yeah, well, getting a body into shape
in a matter of days...

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...is going to hurt.

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- You saying I'm not in shape?
- No, no.

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They call it a honey trap, you know.

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Posing as a love interest to him
in order to find out

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certain psychological things about him.

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But then, as it goes, you know,
they slightly fall for each other

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and it's possibly
an interesting relationship.

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- There's a good boy.
- Oh, I'm a very good boy.

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Well, then I think you probably

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deserve a bit of a treat, don't you?

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Hmm?

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We don't want to turn off
the female audience.

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I mean, it's important that there are
strong women in strong women roles.

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But I think the scripts reflect that

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and I think hopefully
there's a good balance.

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Orla was one of the first characters
to actually shoot anything on the show.

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You know, the first thing she did
was one of her anchor feeds from Basra.

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Richard actually said to me at the time
that he thought,

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{\an8}"Now, I know where we are.
Now, I know the country we're in."

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{\an8}And yeah, it was a good thing
to kick off with.

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I remember seeing the tape of it
and it was delivered so truthfully that

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it was the first time
I sort of sat down and went,

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"Okay, I know
what this show's going to be now."

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Because up until that point,
I had no concept.

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And the truthfulness with which she
played that first sequence, reporting...

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"Katie Dartmouth, reporting from Basra,"

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really kind of sort of
locked something into my stomach.

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...undercurrent of violence
hides just beneath the surface.

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With the US pull-out scheduled
for the end of the year,

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many Iraqis I've spoken to are worried.

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There's something about being
a correspondent that strikes me

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as something very, very courageous.

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It is very courageous,
especially in certain zones.

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Obviously in a war zone like Iraq,

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you would have to have
your wits about you.

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She's been a significant part of
Porter's evolution, really.

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Because again, it's something
to do with the nurturing.

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You know, she's playing a reporter
who is taken hostage.

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Oh, God! No! No! No!

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A British TV journalist has just
been abducted near Basra.

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Shit. You know who this is, don't you?

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Yeah. We're trying to establish
if her kidnap is incidental

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or directly related to her father.

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- Any contact?
- Not yet.

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All we know is that Katie was abducted
17 kilometres from Basra,

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near a town called Al Haritha.

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My character is in charge of Section 20,

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which is a division of
military intelligence

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that works very closely
with Special Forces.

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{\an8}The Section 20 is sort of
a clandestine group.

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{\an8}We sort of sit between
politicians and MoD.

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{\an8}We sort of try to sort things out

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in the neutral zone.

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- Major Collinson heads up the unit.
- Sir Patrick.

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With Hugh's experience
in the field

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and his specialist Arabic knowledge,

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he's uniquely placed
to resolve this situation.

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If you find Katie, what can you do?

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Section 20 works closely
with UK Special Forces.

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Once we have her location,
we can start implementing a rescue.

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The character who is kidnapped,
played by Orla Brady,

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realises something's happening when
she about to be sort of kidnapped.

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So she takes a photograph
of the character coming towards her,

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and takes the image
and texts it back to England.

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Although it's ostensibly
an action story,

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what is at its heart and what I thought
was a beautiful premise,

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is a man who is, you know,
he's into his life,

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he's, you know, he's not some youngster
at the beginning of his life,

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in his life, he's made
a terrible mistake.

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<i>British Intelligence</i>
<i>authorities have confirmed</i>

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<i>that this is likely to be the face</i>
<i>of one of her abductors,</i>

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<i>disguised in an Iraqi police uniform...</i>

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<i>British security forces believe</i>
<i>this photograph,</i>

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<i>taken on Miss Dartmouth's</i>
<i>mobile phone...</i>

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<i>He wants the chance to go back.</i>
<i>It's eating away at his soul.</i>

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And he's living and waiting
for the day when he can do that.

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And then he gets a chance.

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<i>He's watching for it, he's waiting</i>
<i>for it and he gets that chance.</i>

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<i>It's been very interesting</i>

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<i>watching Richard go through</i>
<i>this process.</i>

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<i>And he's had a huge amount</i>
<i>of training on this.</i>

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<i>And he's spent very intensive time</i>
<i>and he's a very hard-working actor.</i>

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It's okay. It's okay.
It's only me. It's John.

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We're going to get through this.
You and me.

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You know that, don't you?

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Yes.

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She's taken hostage and is seriously,

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in a seriously sort of damaged condition
when he finds her.

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And again, having that thread through,

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you know, that thread of
compassion in him

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to be able to deal with her in
that state has been very interesting.

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The scenes between Orla and Richard

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in a prison cell
in a terrorist safe house

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are some of the most
powerful things we could film.

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Just going to loosen these ropes.
Make you more comfortable.

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- Is that better?
- Yeah.

231
00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,560
How does that arm feel?

232
00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,760
There are scenes in the cell,
where he comes to rescue Katie,

233
00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,240
that are, they're kind of,
they're almost like love scenes.

234
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,560
There's an intimacy to them.

235
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,360
You know, there's that bond
that would form

236
00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,080
between somebody who is in grave danger

237
00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,120
and somebody who comes
and says, "I'm going to help you."

238
00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,400
Now listen.

239
00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120
They're going to come for me first.

240
00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,560
That's our chance. I'll overpower them.

241
00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360
Then I'll come back for you.

242
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,720
Going to get you home, Katie.

243
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,280
I'll need to put this hood back on.
I'm sorry.

244
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,080
I understand.

245
00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,160
You're, you know,
on a precipice together

246
00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,360
and so you telescope 20 years
of knowing somebody into

247
00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,320
a few short hours.

248
00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,600
And you know them on a level that
you'll possibly never know anybody else.

249
00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,520
Stay low.

250
00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200
Come on. Head down.

251
00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,760
I think it's good to have
a context which is real, so you...

252
00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,240
It just makes it more believable.
and also, in a sense, more interesting.

253
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,720
So, it's good, strong entertainment,
but with a reality.

254
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680
It's a real rollercoaster.

255
00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,240
There are explosions and helicopters.

256
00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,080
It's ambitious.

257
00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,320
And really exciting.

258
00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,560
There's a lot of boys
playing bang-bang.

259
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,320
Go. Go. We've got this.

260
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,520
We've been using AK Kalashnikovs...

261
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,720
sniper rifle...

262
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,240
had an RPG fired at us...

263
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,320
Get down! Get down!

264
00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,760
...some hand grenades...

265
00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,360
- Grenade!
- Down!

266
00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,680
{\an8}Chris Ryan was
a real serving SAS soldier,

267
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,240
{\an8}and he's still very, very involved

268
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,120
{\an8}in the intelligence
and security industry to this day.

269
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,880
{\an8}So his books have a veracity about them
that we're able to mine and tap into.

270
00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,600
{\an8}So I started training
with an ex-army fitness instructor.

271
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,360
{\an8}So we kind of worked on
not just the shape of my body

272
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,600
but my fitness level
and trying to get into a point

273
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,880
where I had a shape
that looked like it had been...

274
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,280
It had evolved through work rather than
being in a gym, if you see what I mean.

275
00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:35,440
So I did a lot of cross-training
and running with weights

276
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,520
that kind of replicate weaponry

277
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,760
and, sort of, trying to get movement
that would, you know,

278
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,480
replicate the kind of thing
you have to do in action.

279
00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,480
{\an8}It's always slightly challenging
to make it just look normal.

280
00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,320
{\an8}You know, we're running
through the bush with guns,

281
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:58,040
letting off AK-47s,
and it would be very easy to...

282
00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,880
to just play-act.

283
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,160
But most actors I know want
to make sure that it looks authentic.

284
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,240
So we want to know how the gun works,
we want to know how we hold it,

285
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,520
where we hold it, what the kickback is,
how far the target is away,

286
00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,960
how we reload.

287
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,640
So it's very exciting for us, as actors.

288
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,880
{\an8}I'm the armourer on this production,
<i>Strike Back.</i>

289
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,160
{\an8}My job, basically,
is to train the actors.

290
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,000
Don't drop your head down to it.
Don't worry.

291
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,000
You just...
You're looking straight in the door.

292
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,600
- The gun is there. Okay?
- Okay. Yeah.

293
00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,960
With firearms, primarily it's actually
to make sure that the weapons work,

294
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,560
load them, unload them,

295
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,160
make sure the safety distances
are kept to,

296
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,080
nobody gets hurt
with the cases flying out.

297
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,320
We worked with weapons
and tactical training

298
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,640
with three SAS, ex-SAS guys,

299
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,760
who stayed with us the whole time on set
and picked us up on every single move,

300
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,680
and anything, any detail,
that wasn't truthful and wasn't real,

301
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,800
they'd be jumping on it straight away.

302
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,280
Well, we started off with the SAS
in Iraq,

303
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:10,240
where Porter walks around
with this rifle, called an M4,

304
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,440
on which we put torches,
it had a different sight on.

305
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,600
You can take this handle off and you
put different sighting systems onto it.

306
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,160
Shit.

307
00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:30,920
Collinson, he had a MT-51,
which is specifically used by the SAS,

308
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,200
which is a.762 calibre.

309
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:39,080
{\an8}We learnt how to strip the guns,
to reassemble, to fire, to...

310
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,840
{\an8}Basically, to feel comfortable
in and around a gun, yeah,

311
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,920
and it took a few days, but we became...

312
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,760
We wanted to get to the stage
where during a take,

313
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,520
if something malfunctioned with a gun,

314
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,840
we would be able
to deal with it ourselves.

315
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,880
And so, as you would
in a firefight or a war,

316
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,160
be able to reload
and sort of be self-sufficient, really.

317
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,960
Andrew, when Andrew came here,
first of all, from the UK...

318
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,280
Be nice, Lance, come on.

319
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,080
...he didn't even know which end
was the right way to hold it.

320
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,280
But after a little bit of training
and whatever, he's a natural.

321
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,840
Look at that.
Natural-born, steely-eyed killer.

322
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,200
We've got all the gear and no idea.

323
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,200
The guys, the Iraqis, all ran around
with AK-47s.

324
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,960
Here's an example of a dummy one.

325
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,720
These are rubber, just for background,
and the guys running around,

326
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,600
um, you can't get too close to
the camera, as you can probably see.

327
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,160
It's just what
we call "ballistic masturbation".

328
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,040
Working on film sets, we've got sort of
extenuating circumstances, per se,

329
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,920
that we work with because
they're not live firing weapons.

330
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,160
And also, given the different scenes,

331
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,240
there's different requirements
that the director might ask for

332
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,320
that we've got to modify certain things
to make it look good for camera.

333
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,920
The mindset and the mentality
and the operational planning

334
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,920
of the kind of things
we're trying to do,

335
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,280
we're trying to be as authentic
about it as we can.

336
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,640
And that's essential to me,
and I think essential to the audience

337
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,320
and to the whole production,

338
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,680
that everything we do
feels real and authentic.

339
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,920
{\an8}The armourer, the special effects guys,
the stunt guys, the safety officer,

340
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,680
{\an8}we all work very, very closely together
because we've got to...

341
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,160
{\an8}I mean, we've all got a common interest
in their safety and security on the set.

342
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,400
Just past this rock over here,
he's going to call ceasefire.

343
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,520
When he calls ceasefire,
what I want you to do is

344
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,720
you stand up and you're still looking,
you're scanning the bush,

345
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,040
and down here, and looking
where the dead bodies,

346
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:46,200
'cause there's dead guys lying there,
so you've got an eye on them, okay?

347
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760
Come across. Come across.

348
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,120
Guys, not too far.

349
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,480
Okay, you see at the top,
there's S, R and A.

350
00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,360
S is for safe, R is for repeat
or repetition, and A is for automatic.

351
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,240
What does R stand for? Rat-a-tat-tat.

352
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,880
Whenever a helicopter lands,
everybody wants to go to it,

353
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,320
so the challenge with the helicopter
mainly is

354
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800
number one, no one must go
to the wrong side of the helicopter,

355
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,000
and number two,
no one must fall out of it.

356
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,000
From the back door backwards
is an absolute no-go area.

357
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080
{\an8}If you do want to try and get photos
with the chopper, you know,

358
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,840
{\an8}somebody taking a nice photo of you,
don't touch the helicopter

359
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,200
because it's got all this sticky paint
on it, it's removable, okay?

360
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,720
You're going to walk away
with green hands

361
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,400
and you're going to stop us
from actually flying.

362
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,640
Things like caps, stuff like that,

363
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,760
absolutely no-no while
these rotors are going.

364
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,360
There's another good point here.

365
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,720
Because we've got a little bit
of high and low ground here,

366
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040
the blades will go down,
depending on where the skids are.

367
00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,680
So all the guys who are
in the chopper now

368
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,800
have already practised
going out nice and low.

369
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,800
If you do approach at any time,
please just check with me on the ground,

370
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,280
and keep down low.

371
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,240
Do not walk in there
because I have actually seen it before,

372
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520
where somebody's decided
to go away without a head.

373
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,880
And it's not funny.
So I'm going to be super-serious.

374
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,840
From that door backwards,
if I see anybody,

375
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,960
I'm going to give them one warning,

376
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,480
after that, I'm going to take
my helicopter away.

377
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,640
When you're directing action,
it's, you know,

378
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,360
the action part of it is kind of,
you know,

379
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480
I want it to feel almost incidental.

380
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,120
What's always important is
the character, the story,

381
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,800
the moments, the emotional beats,
of all of those action sequences.

382
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,800
{\an8}Yeah, today, we've got a chopper
flying in an arc,

383
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,840
{\an8}we've got a guy being rescued,
as far as the scene goes.

384
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,000
{\an8}And, um, yeah, we've just got to watch

385
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,720
that the crew doesn't get
too close to the chopper,

386
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,600
stays away from the tail rotors,
that the pilots are happy at all times.

387
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:56,000
You get Richard and all
are safely on board, run round.

388
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600
As soon as they're back on board,
the moment they're back on board,

389
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480
well, it takes off,
leaving As'ad behind.

390
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,320
And so this camera will hopefully see
that as it rises, see As'ad is...

391
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,400
Stay low.

392
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,440
Come on. Head down.

393
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,000
Not you. On your knees.

394
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,360
Katie, sit here.

395
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,720
<i>Zero, this is two-eight</i>
<i>Alpha. Hostage secure. Moving now.</i>

396
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,680
- What?
- Don't move.

397
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,640
What are you doing? Wait! As'ad!

398
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,040
John! They're leaving him!

399
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,560
Layla, we need to go back now!

400
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Orders from Collinson!

401
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,080
We all want to make something fantastic,

402
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,520
and certainly Dan has wanted to push
it out as much as possible, you know.

403
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,280
{\an8}We want as many explosions as possible.

404
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:10,840
{\an8}We want great scenes with the actors
jumping over cliffs, right,

405
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,080
dropping into the river, you know,
all that kind of stuff.

406
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,960
A lot of it we've achieved, actually.
I'm really pleased.

407
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,200
We've got some great production value.

408
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,560
Um, we shot it on 35mm, so it has
a real feature-film look about it.

409
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,440
And, you know, plenty of extras
and plenty of fun, basically.

410
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,120
And this is something
that's very unusual on television.

411
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,160
It takes an awful lot of planning
and an awful lot of people

412
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,920
to be involved in the design,
the storyboarding, the special effects,

413
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,360
the stunts,
to coordinate very, very clearly,

414
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,120
to make those achievable,
but also to make them believable.

415
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,560
{\an8}I had been to South Africa
several times before.

416
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,360
{\an8}I love South Africa, actually.
I love the climate,

417
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,360
{\an8}I love the people, I love the locations.

418
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,360
{\an8}<i>And the most extraordinary thing</i>
<i>about South Africa is that</i>

419
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960
{\an8}<i>you can duplicate</i>
<i>almost anywhere in the world.</i>

420
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880
{\an8}I think South Africa has got the
most incredible locations.

421
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,120
{\an8}It's got great crews.

422
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,200
- Sound and speed. 661, take one.
- Mark.

423
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560
You feel like the industry's building,
you know,

424
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,040
and that's, I think, quite exciting.

425
00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:00,160
You know, I think the crews remind me
a lot of British crews.

426
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,520
Just get it done.

427
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,560
{\an8}The locations for episode one and two
require us to recreate southern Iraq.

428
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,840
And we're able to do that
in South Africa

429
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,760
in an area called Upington
near the Namibian border

430
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,240
where they had flat deserts.

431
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,840
But also the Orange River creates
a fertile flood plain

432
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,440
very like the Euphrates delta,
which is somewhere I'd been, actually,

433
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,560
so when I saw it, I thought,
"Oh, my God."

434
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960
You know, the opening of episode one,

435
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,720
is all about a hostage extraction
by an SAS team

436
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,960
that land on the roof of a safe house
in the centre of Basra

437
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,640
just before the beginning of
Operation Shock and Awe.

438
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,600
And we were filming it over a week

439
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,880
of nights here in Yeoville
in Johannesburg,

440
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,400
which has some fantastic '30s buildings
very like parts of Basra are today.

441
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,600
<i>Five, four, three, two, one.</i>

442
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Go! Go! Go!

443
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840
{\an8}Johannesburg is clearly
a very vibrant city

444
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,640
{\an8}and there's, you know,
lots going on here.

445
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,480
{\an8}And then you don't have to go too far
before you're in Africa, you know.

446
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,000
{\an8}And that's very exciting for me
and it's a huge privilege.

447
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,320
{\an8}I couldn't quite work out why
we were coming to Africa to film.

448
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,560
But apart from the work ethic
from the crew,

449
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
which has been absolutely astonishing,

450
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,760
having the variety of landscapes
so accessible

451
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,600
and a consistent climate
is one of the reasons why we're here.

452
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,520
We've been, you know...
Joburg's been Basra,

453
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,600
Upington is obviously the desert.

454
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520
I've never been to this country before

455
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,000
and to have Joburg and this,
you know, so close...

456
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,560
I mean, it's great. It think that's
probably why we're filming here as well,

457
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,320
because you get this
incredible landscape

458
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200
within an hour's drive.
So, yeah, very lucky.


